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Call Sign : 26CT612 Posts : 48 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2020-04-14 QTH or Location : West Oxfordshire Equipment Used : Various SSB sets
Subject: Diamond X50N on PMR Thu May 07, 2020 12:25 pm
Has anyone used one of these antennas on the PMR446 frequencies? I am curious as it says that the bandwidth is 430-440Mzh, but I am sure I have heard others saying that they still work ok and that the SWR is acceptable.
Yout thoughts would be welcome.
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Call Sign : 2E0VRX Posts : 726 Times Thanked : 44 Join date : 2019-06-26 QTH or Location : Yorkshire dales Equipment Used : Yaesu FTdx 101d, MD200 mic ,Mosley 3ele Yagi Age : 58
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Thu May 07, 2020 4:18 pm
Hey up Simon and I use a Comet GP1 very similar antenna and the SWR on PMR is spot on
Craig
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Call Sign : 26CT612 Posts : 48 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2020-04-14 QTH or Location : West Oxfordshire Equipment Used : Various SSB sets
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Thu May 07, 2020 6:07 pm
Thanks Craig. I know that in an ideal world the X50NA would have been the version to buy but we cannot get them over this side of the pond.
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26CT1074 New Member
Call Sign : 26-CT-1074 / 29-CT-031 Posts : 33 Times Thanked : 5 Join date : 2019-06-28 QTH or Location : East Sussex Equipment Used : Icom IC-7300, Lincoln II (V4), Xiegu X6100 Age : 45
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Thu May 07, 2020 10:48 pm
the difference in SWR readings on 70cm and 446mhz is minimal.
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Call Sign : 108CT233 Posts : 201 Times Thanked : 14 Join date : 2019-12-01 QTH or Location : Central Scotland Equipment Used : CRT SS9900 Beofeng UV5R Yaesu FTDX1200 CRT Micron CRT FP00 Sattelite 2000 antenna ZS6BKW X30 co-linear
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Fri May 08, 2020 1:33 pm
One of the guys I chat to locally on PMR is using the X50 and I recently purchased the X30 myself at the recommendation of one of the other chaps I speak to as they give both antennas glowing reports! My own is still to go up on a chimney lashing kit, it is finding an installer at the moment I am struggling with as my days of climbing across rooftops are long past.
Mudslinger New Member
Call Sign : 26CT612 Posts : 48 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2020-04-14 QTH or Location : West Oxfordshire Equipment Used : Various SSB sets
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Sat May 09, 2020 3:29 pm
Thank you Alan. I am going to give it a try once my coax connectors turn up. It has to be miles better than the rubber duck on my H/H
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Call Sign : 108CT233 Posts : 201 Times Thanked : 14 Join date : 2019-12-01 QTH or Location : Central Scotland Equipment Used : CRT SS9900 Beofeng UV5R Yaesu FTDX1200 CRT Micron CRT FP00 Sattelite 2000 antenna ZS6BKW X30 co-linear
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Sun May 10, 2020 2:01 pm
Without a doubt it will be, I was advised to swap the rubber duck out immediately on my handset and have done so with each one I have bought noticing vast improvements over the original rubber duck. The standard one I am using on handsets is the Nagoya NA771 and I have purchased one of the goose-neck, folding tactical antennas, which, when out with the dog I was able to hear a cruise liner make its various stops around the coast on one of the Marine frequencies I was listening too at no less than 4 of its coastal pick-up points. After joining the local group of radio operators I have found the majority who are using PMR have a mobile unit set up as a base station and even though I, like you, got all the connections for my handset(walkie-talkie) I have ordered one myself due to the various benefits it can offer although my handset accompanies me every time I go out with the dog pretty much!
Mudslinger New Member
Call Sign : 26CT612 Posts : 48 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2020-04-14 QTH or Location : West Oxfordshire Equipment Used : Various SSB sets
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Sun May 10, 2020 2:55 pm
I do have a Nagoya NA771 and use it regularly although I am thinking that it could be a fake. On 446 it doesn't really work any better than the stubby rubber duck that my Bumfeng came with. I also have one of those micro mag antennas for the car, but again it isn't great on performance. that could be down to the crappy coax it came with though...
I am too far inland to pick up much on the Marine band but I have listened in whilst at the coast a few times.
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Call Sign : 108CT233 Posts : 201 Times Thanked : 14 Join date : 2019-12-01 QTH or Location : Central Scotland Equipment Used : CRT SS9900 Beofeng UV5R Yaesu FTDX1200 CRT Micron CRT FP00 Sattelite 2000 antenna ZS6BKW X30 co-linear
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Sun May 10, 2020 5:23 pm
It may well be fake as I tried them all out making comparisons which went as you would expect the tactical one does best by far followed by the Nagoya then the standard one it shipped with, especially over distance I found.
Mudslinger New Member
Call Sign : 26CT612 Posts : 48 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2020-04-14 QTH or Location : West Oxfordshire Equipment Used : Various SSB sets
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Sun May 10, 2020 5:31 pm
My brother bought it for me and he just bought the cheapest he could find, it looks good enough but I'm almost certain it's a fake.
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Call Sign : 108CT233 Posts : 201 Times Thanked : 14 Join date : 2019-12-01 QTH or Location : Central Scotland Equipment Used : CRT SS9900 Beofeng UV5R Yaesu FTDX1200 CRT Micron CRT FP00 Sattelite 2000 antenna ZS6BKW X30 co-linear
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Mon May 11, 2020 11:12 am
We have all been caught out with fake products back and forth, they look the part but more often than not have poor functionality, it is only then that you start to suspect they are a copy. If you buy from a UK supplier you may pay a little more but are far less likely to get caught out with a fake but in saying that I just looked at others from abroad and some have very good reviews indeed and if I wasn't in a hurry I would be tempted to try them myself with prices like that. I bought each radio bundled with the Nagoya antenna and recommended a some friends I have helped purchase/program their sets do the same and we have had no problems when I have purchased another I just ensured it had a decent write up from other customers.
Pagan Senior contributor
Call Sign : 26CT2069 Posts : 142 Times Thanked : 22 Join date : 2019-08-09 QTH or Location : Pendle, Lancashire Equipment Used : CRT-SS9900
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Mon May 11, 2020 11:40 am
Mudslinger wrote:
My brother bought it for me and he just bought the cheapest he could find, it looks good enough but I'm almost certain it's a fake.
A GENUINE NAGOYA NA-771 will have a tiny inverted triangle inside the letter "A" on the base (see photo). If it doesn't have this then its a fake (this information is from the manufacturer's site).
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Call Sign : 26CT612 Posts : 48 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2020-04-14 QTH or Location : West Oxfordshire Equipment Used : Various SSB sets
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Mon May 11, 2020 11:44 am
In that case it is definitely a fake. Thanks for the info.
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Denis2865 New Member
Call Sign : 108-CT-049 Posts : 11 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2021-03-01 QTH or Location : Kilsyth Nth Lanarkshire Equipment Used : Kenwood 950 sdx, Kenwood 570, 2&70 cms
Subject: PMR Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:05 pm
Hi i use my X30 for PMR and it works really well.
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stephen Gunrunner Major contributor
Call Sign : 26CT526/MR021/M6XXX. Posts : 262 Times Thanked : 10 Join date : 2019-06-27 QTH or Location : wooler north northumberland or some were near it Equipment Used : mobile 4000hp base A99 radio base magnum257hp mobile magnum 257 standed power Age : 66
Subject: Re: Diamond X50N on PMR Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:14 pm
i got my base antenna from Slovakia home made and its great and i have a home made with measurements from tm 01 and its into a 3/8 onto a mag mount and gets out well some say 1 to 2 max range i get further at home and lots further out mobile static next week if its like this the weather, will be out with pmr and my superstar 6900n and the t2lt antenna and try for some contacts