Antenna Mast

OK, so I have been suggested to do impossible and unrealistic things to my aerial.

As I live in the UK, where we dont seem to make anything , I thought about a Fiberglass mast, as i only need and want it at 3 meters length.

Cannot find a supplier who doesnt want an arm and two legs, nor who can supply in lengths longer than 2 meters.

Telescopic poles were considered, but I dont know enough about them, like full time /permanent use, and wind resistance with a 1kg antenna to carry.

So how about I buy a stair wooden hand rail ?  Cost effective, comes in a 3 meter length as one piece, is Non-Conductive and doesnt really affect radio waves.

Would you, should I  ?  

tia, & 73's.

DX Commander Callum has stated in a couple of his videos that is how he started out. Give it a good coat of varnish or other weather proofing to make it last a bit longer in the weather.

I have had a scanner aerial up for around 7 years and it is on roof batons.
3Mtr long tanalised and still like new well the colour has changed but the wood is still good.
Cost less than £5.

NoMad wrote:

OK, so I have been suggested to do impossible and unrealistic things to my aerial.

As I live in the UK, where we dont seem to make anything , I thought about a Fiberglass mast, as i only need and want it at 3 meters length.

Cannot find a supplier who doesnt want an arm and two legs, nor who can supply in lengths longer than 2 meters.

Telescopic poles were considered, but I dont know enough about them, like full time /permanent use, and wind resistance with a 1kg antenna to carry.

So how about I buy a stair wooden hand rail ?  Cost effective, comes in a 3 meter length as one piece, is Non-Conductive and doesnt really affect radio waves.

Would you, should I  ?  

tia, & 73's.

Hello Nomad,

Before you erect anything take into consideration the neighbours. Because some monstrosity swaying around in the breeze in your garden or attached to your side of your property. Can reduce the price of your neighbours properties by 10% something they won't appreciate. The keywords with aerials are DISCREET and COVERT. Have you considered putting  a loop aerial in your loft....?

If you live in social housing then simply ignore what I wrote, as it doesn't matter what you do in those types of dwelling.

I, your humble narrator

Mr Scientist

Andy,

Take the good advice from the first two posts and ignore the ####### who thinks they are a deity.

At least a deity would be able to spell 

Mr Scientist wrote:

Hello Nomad,

Before you erect anything take into consideration the neighbours. Because some monstrosity swaying around in the breeze in your garden or attached to your side of your property. Can reduce the price of your neighbours properties by 10% something they won't appreciate. The keywords with aerials are DISCREET and COVERT. Have you considered putting  a loop aerial in your loft....?

If you live in social housing then simply ignore what I wrote, as it doesn't matter what you do in those types of dwelling.

I, your humble narrator

Mr Scientist

My new neighbours, who I dislike intensely, got their house cheaper because of my antenna farm.

Ain't got any PP and if they complain I will ask for a taller mast.   

Back to original post, most likely overkill but if you want a really sturdy long lasting
telescopic mast look no further than the Spiderbeam alloy ones.
Expensive but will out last you and easily handle a few kilos, add a three paracord guys
and it easily handles storm 11 winds. My 10metre one holds my Cobweb at 8metres no problem.
Forget those cheaper wankie ones as they are crap, guess how I know.  

You could just turn the dipole around 90 degrees to horizontal. This will disprove or otherwise whether the existing aluminium mast is affecting your v:swr

Thanks for your replies.

Some have missed the point, 3 meters, no more.  
Council flat / flat roof / no loft. 
Fc k my neighbour, he's an a55hole anyway, and he has a sat dish near, and his broadband twisted pairs run all over the place, wrapped around metal railings too. [and sure he's sharing his internet with one of those -should be banned- internet over mains.]


@Mr Scientist  3 meters, hardly a monstrocity. and my scummy neighbours would have already reduced property prices by 75%, so wont make any difference, besides its council.





@Alan Pilot ; Perfect Reply, thank you. 

@SangueG thank you. 

@redfox 

@Sydthecat  not sure I understand your reply.....or who it's aimed at.



thanks for your replies.  

think I'll go wooden.

Hey, @nomad. Really. Listen. I do not believe that your woes are caused by your vertical dipole being attached to a vertical aluminium pole. Please try what I suggested. Otherwise I'm afraid it's difficult to help further.

Andy,

I was looking at the site below as a possible upgrade solution for one of my antennas, might be of some use if the sizes and cost are suitable.

https://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/category/polyester-fibreglass-rods-white

Cheers.

Sydthecat wrote:

Can see the bell end of the week award being re introduced 



Craig ( humble CT Admin )

Can we vote? 

Lol thankfully this weeks number one contender has now left the building

Did you lock the door when you pushed him through it.
Not bad we have only had 2 i think this year ?? ..

We certainly did Alan

Yes we do get them now and again but as you say only 2 or 3 this year 


Craig CT Admin

@ Sydthecat  Is there need for that comment ?   no.

@Alan Pilot  and you, what is your problem ?  

@43CT016


I do not appreciate these comments.  I take them as a form of trolling.  Please grow up, this is not what I come here for. 

@ Red Fox ; thanks for the link.  

I sometimes miss searches [because Im no slave to Google data collecting] for using an alternate browser.

NoMad
My problem came about with him when he had a go at Victor.
Victor will help anybody with anything and also go out of his way if needed.
There was no need for his comments.
Do you have a problem with me Report me to admin if you have.

I think we've got a bit of a wires-crossed misunderstanding going on here and probably not helped by the events that occurred during this posting.


NoMad - Andy,

There were some unruly comments made by a member, (Mr. Scientist), who has ultimately been banned from the forum and a lot of the retorts above were obviously aimed squarely at him and I can reassure you not towards yourself.

This posting could have been 'tidied' a bit better to reflect this but considering all of the Admin staff are volunteers you can understand some things may be missed. (I'd already tidied up so much elsewhere on the forum but can't catch everything.)

Be assured that the members still residing here do so in their common interest of radio and their exemplary efforts in helping each other where they can.

I hope that clears things up and when I have time I will try my very best to further 'clean' the forum to prevent such misunderstandings.


All the very best,

Victor

CT Admin.

NoMad wrote:

@43CT016

I do not appreciate these comments.  I take them as a form of trolling.  Please grow up, this is not what I come here for. 

I don’t come here to read utter dribble by idiots either, which is what started the whole thing when the now banned member started being a knob.  IME, bell ends need to be told they’re bell ends, as often they have no idea.

Feel free to scroll on by, and I will refrain from offering assistance in your threads by return.  I’ll leave you to “fxxk your a$$hole neighbour” as per your earlier post…..

Ah, well spotted Jeff seems I missed quite a few things.

Second section "Language & Trolling" :-

https://charlietangodxgroup.forumotion.com/t2-charlie-tango-forum-rules

Let's try and keep it civil.

Good point Jeff.
"Feel free to scroll on by, and I will refrain from offering assistance in your threads by return"..
Didn't think of that but will try to remember it.

NoMad wrote:

Cannot find a supplier who doesnt want an arm and two legs, nor who can supply in lengths longer than 2 meters.

I got mine from the company who advertises in the back of Radcom, just looked at the Radcom I have and sods law it's not in there. They do lengths up to 5 metres long. If you go to scaffolding companies they're now using fibreglass/composite poles now too.

@ Alan Pilot ; <<<<<<<<< Did you lock the door when you pushed him through it.
Not bad we have only had 2 i think this year ?? .." >>>>>>>>>>
  this is what I was asking you about as I dont understand this.   What relivence does this have with my question  ? 


@Trunky, I swr'd it horizontal.  It was when I put it verticle on the mast that then the swr went sky high.

Boom is a metre out on a plastic pipe.


43CT016  but my alcoholic violent crack & Meth users have caused me mass problems, so thats my opinion about them regarding my aerial.   Language was censored, so sorry mr snowflake if that censorship offends you.





@Redfox, do you know if that company are in business  ? ?    only the phone number doesnt connect, emails are not answered, so I wont send money online if they are not there anymore.



@ Northern Crusader ;what an empty reply,  so what was the company name/details that you bought from then ?   or is it a secret .......

NoMad wrote:

@Trunky, I swr'd it horizontal.  It was when I put it verticle on the mast that then the swr went sky high.

Boom is a metre out on a plastic pipe.

 I can't help but think something else is going on here. I also have a vertical dipole standing 30cm off an aluminium mast with the coax going down the mast, There is even a 50MHz halo just below centre of the dipole on the same mast. I have no problems with the dipole match. I accept that the radiation pattern may very well be skewed but I have been working stations all over the world over the last few weeks.

I would be thinking about your connections, a break in the coax or something similar. Can you define "sky high"?

@Red Fox -  Ignore last sentence: Ive got through to them now & ordered.  

Trunky,   I really don't know.  I have checked all connections with my multimeter, and no shorts, the coax core runs up, and sheild runs down, and is conducted.   Ive bought an external swr meter/matcher now, so will use the matcher for a while until my fibreglass mast arrives in a day or two, then I will start ""afresh"" with it. If that doesn't work I will rip it down and jump up and down on it until it's completely ruined then throw it away and ....not sure yet which way this'll go.  ..