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Andybron New Member
Call Sign : 26-CT-989 Posts : 22 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2020-01-13 QTH or Location : Clacton on sea essex Equipment Used : CRT ss9900 with solarcon aerial Age : 56
| Subject: Mini 8 rg8 v rg213 ??? Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:16 am | |
| Hi all will I actually notice much difference as bought rg8 mini instead of 213 by mistake ?? It will be approximately a 50ft length.......just don’t wanna use it if I am going to have a noticeable difference on such a short length being used | |
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GaryWilson CT Directors
Call Sign : 26-CT-1836 Amateur Radio Call Sign 2E0GGQ Posts : 4488 Times Thanked : 388 Join date : 2019-06-27 QTH or Location : Redcar, North Yorkshire. Equipment Used : Radios & Wires & Stuff! Age : 60
| Subject: Re: Mini 8 rg8 v rg213 ??? Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:30 am | |
| Hi Andy,
You will have greater feedline loss but to be honest at HF frequencies I doubt you're going to notice much difference. There are a few calculators online that you could use to get an idea of the difference. If you are feeling really technical you can use the information usually stamped on the coax itself or from the supplier to do the calculations yourself. Personally I would just use it.
73's Gary. | |
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Victor CT Directors
Call Sign : 26-CT-3228 / M7VIC Posts : 6269 Times Thanked : 389 Join date : 2019-11-10 QTH or Location : Bedford Equipment Used : Various
| Subject: Re: Mini 8 rg8 v rg213 ??? Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:19 am | |
| That has got to be one of the most sensible answers I have ever witnessed for a coax question I'm with Gary on this one Andy, I'd personally just use it too! (You'll get into the proverbial dog chasing its tail scenario calculating coax losses). 73's Victor | |
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Andybron New Member
Call Sign : 26-CT-989 Posts : 22 Times Thanked : 0 Join date : 2020-01-13 QTH or Location : Clacton on sea essex Equipment Used : CRT ss9900 with solarcon aerial Age : 56
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GaryWilson CT Directors
Call Sign : 26-CT-1836 Amateur Radio Call Sign 2E0GGQ Posts : 4488 Times Thanked : 388 Join date : 2019-06-27 QTH or Location : Redcar, North Yorkshire. Equipment Used : Radios & Wires & Stuff! Age : 60
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Victor CT Directors
Call Sign : 26-CT-3228 / M7VIC Posts : 6269 Times Thanked : 389 Join date : 2019-11-10 QTH or Location : Bedford Equipment Used : Various
| Subject: Re: Mini 8 rg8 v rg213 ??? Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:42 pm | |
| Ha, ha! I'm with you there Gary. Brilliant! | |
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Mitch Senior contributor
Call Sign : M1TCH Posts : 103 Times Thanked : 12 Join date : 2020-01-02 QTH or Location : Wigston, Leicestershire. Equipment Used : Yaesu FT-857D, Diamond V2000, Major 3000, President Jackson Mk1 Export, Lafayette AFS-1005, K40 mic, KL203, B550P and Sirio GPE 27 ⅝λ.
| Subject: Re: Mini 8 rg8 v rg213 ??? Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:30 am | |
| I'd use it too, but you can measure the loss, you don't need a calculator, just a power meter and dummy load. If you have a PL plug on each end then measure the radio's output into a dummy load with a short patch lead, note the power, then replace the patch lead with the coax length and check the power again, you'll know how much you're losing then.
I've got 20m of RG58 and I get 30% loss at 27Mhz. | |
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Northern Crusader Major contributor
Call Sign : M0GVZ / 26CT1760 Posts : 536 Times Thanked : 35 Join date : 2019-11-13 QTH or Location : IO94SA Equipment Used : Icom 7300, TS480, President McKinley, Albrecht AE6110, CRT Mike Age : 54
| Subject: Re: Mini 8 rg8 v rg213 ??? Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:13 am | |
| And as bad as that sounds it's not even half a S point. | |
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43CT016 Major contributor
Call Sign : 43-CT-016 Posts : 368 Times Thanked : 22 Join date : 2019-11-17 QTH or Location : Perth Equipment Used : iCom IC-7610/IC-9700/IC-705 Age : 55
| Subject: Re: Mini 8 rg8 v rg213 ??? Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:50 pm | |
| Just using generic figures rather than asking what exact make of cable you have, RG8x loses you about 0.75dB more at 28MHz than RG58 per 100ft/30m.
https://offgridham.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/coax-loss-chart.jpg
Now, given you have 50 feet, meaning less than one half dB of difference (With 3dB being half power and 1dB being 10%), I very much doubt you’ll notice it.
To put that further into perspective, 1 S-point is 6dB, and 6dB is quarter power. | |
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26TC62 Senior contributor
Call Sign : 26TC62, 26CT2817 Posts : 141 Times Thanked : 29 Join date : 2019-06-27 QTH or Location : Portsmouth Equipment Used : Yaesu 891, 10m pole, wire 5/8, T2LT
| Subject: Re: Mini 8 rg8 v rg213 ??? Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:52 am | |
| I quite like Mini RG-8, I have about a 20m run of it into my back garden to the whip on my back fence. The only thing is the horrible cheap PL259s most places seem to sell to put on them, with the screw-in reducer from an RG213-sized entry. Westlake and Barenco both sell "proper" ones and I will upgrade my plugs at some point. | |
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