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PostSubject: Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r   Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Icon_minitimeSun Aug 22, 2021 11:19 am

Hiya All,

Hope you're all keeping well and enjoying your radio. Smile


A little while back I made a CTCSS Encoder for my 1970's vintage Yaesu FT227ra :-

https://charlietangodxgroup.forumotion.com/t3088-homebrew-ctcss-tone-encoder?highlight=CTCSS

Works well, still working so job's a good'un. Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r 1f44d 


My Yaesu FT290r All-Mode despite repairing it after a kind donation, (thanks again Koenraad!), and modifying it to have SSB RF Speech Processing still doesn't have CTCSS.....

So I set about rectifying that. Smile

Now, once again I could have taken the 'simple' path and forked out for a CTCSS board, but where's the fun in that?
So I got the breadboard out and decided to muck about with another design I'd seen that was much simpler than my last one. Unfortunately I can't find the original documents/web page where I saw it so just had to work from the few notes I feverishly scribbled in my notebook at the time.

This circuit was so much better, a dual op-amp in a single chip, simple regulation with a zener and it produces the most beautiful sine-wave I've ever seen! Very stable, nice and clean so should be just the job. 

Much smaller too so out came my bestest reading glasses and cut my old bear paw claws/fingernails to handle it! Very Happy

Et Voila :-

Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Ctcss_14

None too shabby and miles smaller than the last one so should squeeze into the FT290 without problems.

.....unfortunately I cut the board down to size, so had to add another bit of board to mount it inside the radio. Doh!

After a bit of tracing the circuitry in the radio for the wiring I even managed to mount the whole thing where the original CTCSS unit would have sat :-

Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Ctcss_15

Went in well.

The nice thing about doing this is that I can use the original switch to turn the CTCSS off saving a few mA of power for when I get her running on batteries again.


Now, once again the same as my last tone-board this one only produces a 77Hz tone......which will do fine for the repeaters I can get to on my dismal VHF setup. Wink

Until I get on with my plans for a 2m Yagi....


It seems to work well with a variety of dual op-amps, (of which there are many), and I tested the breadboard version out with all the ones I have in my parts/junk boxes. That includes some surface mount versions so I may even be able to make a unit small enough to squeeze in on my old Kenwood Trio TR-2500 handy! If my eyesight and bear paw hands can manage it of course. Very Happy


So, thanks once again for putting up with my 'waffle'.

I enjoyed building and installing this board, occupied a few hours of time and kept the old grey matter working.
I've already dragged an old 1970's radio up to date and now I've dragged a 1980's vintage radio to join her too. Love it! Smile


All the best,
Victor

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PostSubject: Re: Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r   Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Icon_minitimeSun Aug 22, 2021 12:57 pm

Nice work, Victor.👍😎

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Nothing gives me greater pleasure than posts like this Victor. I really look forward to a day when maybe I could attempt something like this. This hobby is just the most diverse hobby there is, I love it and have only scratched the surface of what can be achieved within it. Great Post Victor and Great Job, thanks for sharing this.

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Cheers John, much appreciated mate. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r   Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Icon_minitimeSun Aug 22, 2021 4:59 pm

Hiya Paddy,

Thanks very much mate. 


It's all about getting some enjoyment from what we do with radio and for me it just happens to be building stuff. Wink
Been planning to this for some time, so at least it's another job ticked off the ever growing list!

The surprising bit that I really enjoy is seeing the enjoyment in others radio pursuits no matter what the path of interest. If that enjoyment shows, it pleases me no end. Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r 1f44d 


All the best to you mate,
Victor

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PostSubject: Re: Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r   Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Icon_minitimeSun Aug 14, 2022 11:01 am

Hi all,

I know this is an old posting but worthy of resurrection with an update as it has proven useful to some members of the Amateur Radio community at large.

Recently I was contacted by Greg, VK5ZGY, down in Australia who owns the whole fabulous set of these little Yaesu radios and was interested in fitting such a CTCSS unit into one of them.

As mentioned in the original posting this circuitry is not of my own devising only having scribbled notes on it and further searches to find the original details have proven unsuccessful......Apart from this posting appearing on such CTCSS searches! 

So as I had spent some (considerable) time back on this to help out Greg in Australia I thought it might be best to post some further details here.

Without further ado I shall add these hoping that it may also come in useful to anyone in the Radio Amateur community.

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Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Ctcss_16

Schematic/circuit diagram as 'scribbled' into one of my many notebooks. As this was a year or so ago I had to dig through a fair amount of notebooks to find it!



Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Ctcss_17

Board layout with connections overlay shown. This is 'perfboard' with just the holes and no copper track such as used on items like 'veroboard', which is far more useful to make connections where you actually need them(!)



Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Ctcss_18

Just in case this helps any I 'flipped' the image so that it can be visualised from the rear whilst making the connections.



The connections to the radio are made as follows :-


Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Tone_p10

Power connections.



Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r Tone_c10

Tone output connection.



Additional information and setup....


I like to prove any circuitry I make (especially something frequency sensitive) with a temperature variation test and this doesn't require some wonderful laboratory but something that can be done in most homes.

First the circuit was bagged and placed in the home freezer compartments whereupon it was found to still be working after a good -10'C or so chill and stayed on the adjusted frequency. After some time to come to room temperature (+20'C) it was found to have not drifted significantly in frequency. The second test involved 'borrowing' the wife's hairdryer and giving the circuit board a good blast of hot air to bring it up to about +50'C and it still remained on frequency.

Total variation - < 0.1Hz for a 77Hz tone output at -10'C to +50'C

So it should work on the coldest winters night to a hot summer day at my QTH! Wink


The method of setting the CTCSS frequency would usually involve a frequency counter that can read that low, but another method is available....

Firstly you'll need a radio that has/can have a selectable CTCSS squelch setting it to the desired frequency. (In my case 77Hz was chosen as it is the standard repeater tone in my area.) This was performed with the ubiquitous Baofeng UV5r programmed for such.

The Yaesu radio can then be set to transmit through a dummy load and the frequency/tone adjustment potentiometer swept through it's range until the Baofeng squelch opens. The potentiometer is then adjusted further until the Baofengs squelch closes again and then the final adjustment will be set somewhere between those limits.

After that the tone output level can be adjusted to the lowest setting whilst still being able to open the Baofengs CTCSS squelch.

Once that's done you simply attach an antenna to the Yaesu, dial up your repeaters frequency and check that you can 'open' the repeater. I could do this with the GB3BF and GB3PI within my range successfully and received good audio reports showing everything worked.


Job's a good'un! Homebrew CTCSS Tone Encoder for my Yaesu FT290r 1f44d
 


Now why would you want to build an old fashioned 'analogue' circuit such as this to drag an old radio onto a repeater?
(Especially with only one tone?!?)

Well, to start with it was fun and made from parts I already had in my workshop/radio room. It's also much smaller than some of the commercial units available so squeezed into the space where the manufacture CTCSS would have fit. (Try finding an OEM one too....like rocking horse pooh!!!)

Sure, you can make a microcontroller version and have as many tones as you'd like.......all programmable so long as you have a programmer, software and the computer hardware to do it. You'll also find out very quickly if the microcontrollers clock frequency causes you any internal QRM/birdies to your reception or piggy-back on your transmission too!

There are some good CTCSS units available and customised for such a radio but some of us like to build our own stuff. Wink

Oh, one tone? The repeaters near me in my regional area all use the one tone of 77Hz.....so this circuit fits the bill.



Anyway, long posting, bit of hard work on my part but hopefully someone may stumble across this and it comes in useful to them.

There is after all many facets to 'Amateur Radio' and the one I enjoy the most is helping each other out wherever and however we can.


I wish Greg well with his build, (I've already emailed him all the details), and anyone else who also stumbles across this.


All the best and enjoy your radio no matter what it may be,

Victor

M7VIC


Last edited by Victor on Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:44 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : 'cos I'm a numpty and the pills make me miss out words......:D)

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