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PostSubject: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeTue Dec 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Hi all thinking of getting the above anyone used this anteana how do you rate it please.

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2022 1:09 am

Not a very helpful group this one has your keyboards broke  Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2022 6:10 am

Hi Lee. It is a bit quiet on here at the moment, but I guess it's the time of year when a lot of people are doing festive and new year stuff.

I didn't want to answer for the sake of answering as I don't use one. However, soon after getting my foundation ham licence I spent a lot of my initial radio time on 10m (and still do) and another ham operator on here was getting a lot of far DX contacts with people I were not even hearing. When I asked what antenna they were using, it was one of these. So, must be pretty good.

I don't think you'd be disappointed if you decide to put one up. Sadly, although they are compact for a 10/11m beam antenna, it's still too large for me to even think about having up permanently at my QTH. If you get one then do let us know how you get on.

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2022 11:11 am

As SangueG said. It's pretty quiet probably due to Christmas.
I did see your post but couldn't really offer any feedback due to lack of knowledge concerning said antenna.
(And probably got distracted by a grandchild asking questions, another crawling towards something precarious . Or the Mrs asking me to open a jar, carve some meat or carry something. 😁 )
Sometimes it can take a day or three to get a response on here but there is a wide variety of knowledge and experience so patience is a virtue.
(Plus the bump option as you discovered)

Anyway, for my tuppence worth.
As you probably know, what works for some people/location can be different for others.

Here's a link that looks useful.
(Have you considered a homebrew antenna ? )

https://fldx.org/site/11m-antennas-on-internet.php


Good luck 🤞

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2022 12:37 pm

Thanks @SangueG Sharpshooter helpful information,



I have made my own antennas in the past many years ago you usually have a few bits knocking around to get you started but this will be a new install and i have thrown all the bits so it's messing around ordering everything, super yagi have them at a fair price i will just order one,


Thanks for the link i will have a look through it, yes i know it's Christmas and people are doing their thing  have a good one.


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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2022 9:54 pm

Hi i use one for 11/10 meters have it about 8ft from the ground and i can work
3Div with no issues at all, the rejection is very good.
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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2022 10:11 pm

kilomike wrote:
Hi i use one for 11/10 meters have it about 8ft from the ground and i can work
3Div with no issues at all, the rejection is very good.
Regards 
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Thanks Tony i will order one in the new year.

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2022 10:43 pm

No worries, make sure you buy a balum and don't use a dirty balum.
The antenna and balum is from here https://www.innovantennas.com/en/baluns-why-do-i-need-one.html.
I was lucky to get this 2nd hand.
I have my mast strapped to the kids trampoline and use it as an earth, seems to work a treat for me.
( Dont forget to use some seize lub on the ends when you put the bits together so you can take apart
for a service)
let me know how you get on, make sure the wife doesn't hang her washing on it lol...

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2022 11:57 pm

kilomike wrote:
No worries, make sure you buy a balum and don't use a dirty balum.
The antenna and balum is from here
I was lucky to get this 2nd hand.
I have my mast strapped to the kids trampoline and use it as an earth, seems to work a treat for me.
( Dont forget to use some seize lub on the ends when you put the bits together so you can take apart
for a service)
let me know how you get on, make sure the wife doesn't hang her washing on it lol...
Many thanks Tony i was only refreshing up on baluns a few days ago i will get one from super yagi they are guaranteed to be over 30db an interesting video to watch on youtube (Balun PART 1: Broadcast Interference, Common Mode Current and Balun's magic) thanks for the tip on lub it will be out of reach for the wife lol thanks again Tony i will keep you updated :-).
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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeFri Dec 30, 2022 9:18 am

hi Lee had my moxon a couple of years and its fantastic , ive already got another in case this one gets problems you wont regret it always 4 s-points up over my gainmaster good luck Mark

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeFri Dec 30, 2022 10:06 am

skipmaster wrote:
hi Lee had my moxon a couple of years and its fantastic , ive already got another in case this one gets problems you wont regret it always 4 s-points up over my gainmaster good luck Mark
Hi Mark thank you for the information i will order one in the new year,

What sort of height are you working yours from my research it wants to be up at around 9mtr ?.
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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeFri Dec 30, 2022 1:16 pm

well Lee its only its only 7-8m ive had good results even worked usa when only 5m with no problems  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeFri Dec 30, 2022 2:56 pm

skipmaster wrote:
well Lee its only its only 7-8m ive had good results even worked usa when only 5m with no problems  Very Happy
Thanks Mark yes i get what you are saying, i remember last time round testing a beam sat on a bird bath and getting good DX.
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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 03, 2023 8:57 am

Not sure why you would need a balun an air choke will suffice

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeTue Jan 03, 2023 5:09 pm

chazwozza wrote:
Not sure why you would need a balun an air choke will suffice
Unless you have the correct equipment to test your air choke you don't know if it's fit for purpose, same could be said for a balun,

So it's important to buy from a reputable company like super yagi.

This video is interesting regarding balun.
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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 04, 2023 9:17 am

It should be a  1 to 1 aerial unless its been built wrong plenty of air choke charts on the net something like 5 winds around a 4 and a half inch former will probably do


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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 04, 2023 10:02 am

Great info there. 11mtr band Moxon 1f44d
 

For others reading there's more detail at :-

http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/chokes/

and as mentioned other places on the old internet.

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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 04, 2023 10:04 am

It's really up to the operator take a gamble winding a air choke or buy something that's proven and tested from a reputable company, 

Personally the last thing i want to do is to cause interference so i won't be taking a gamble with an air choke.


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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 04, 2023 10:13 am

A link to superyagi i highly recommend his gear.
 https://www.superyagi.com/Baluns/cat1798398_3960707.aspx
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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 04, 2023 10:26 am

Some like to purchase with a certain feeling of reassurance whilst others gain knowledge and build their own often saving some cash.

The choice is ultimately up to the individual. 11mtr band Moxon 1f44d



Let's please be careful of open 'advertising' of a particular supplier or website though as per the forum rules :-

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The admin/mods aren't monsters and don't mind recommendations where befitting the forum postings.


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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 04, 2023 10:39 am

Sorry about the link Victor please remove if against rules,

Yes i get the point of making your own gear i have done the same in the past self satisfaction, 

With something as important as causing interference i would not risk it unless i had the correct equipment to test my work, you will soon have the FCC on your case if you get it wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 04, 2023 10:58 am

I make my own kit like this now.
Even made some antennas and sold them for the cost of parts used never any problem or interference.
The only interference i have given out since returning to radio was to the Openreach guy with some sort of listening probe stuck in his ear.
We had a good laugh about it and i stopped transmitting for 5 minutes while he found the wires he was looking for.
He then came in the shack fascinated that he could hear the world on my bit of wire running down the garden.
FCC did they ever bother.


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PostSubject: Re: 11mtr band Moxon   11mtr band Moxon Icon_minitimeWed Jan 04, 2023 11:01 am

No worries Lee and on this occasion albeit a little tentatively it has some bearing on the discussion to hand so I'll leave it. There are many suppliers of such components and we wouldn't want the forum to be used for, or seen as 'drumming' up trade for anyone in particular especially for free.


Nowadays with affordable versions of Vector Network Analysers and such the home constructor can be assured of operation as well as specification of self constructed devices. Thankfully due to the work and diligence of many radio operators & constructors out there some may simply replicate their work verbatim and be assured of successful operation.

Steve Hunt G3TXQ (SK) was one of those wonderful radio enthusiasts who shared his work and findings for free to help other operators enjoy their radio pursuits. Unfortunately some may have copied his work for profitable means but there will always be 'consumers' of such products for a multitude of reasons.

Again, the choice is up to the individual.


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